{"id":1103,"date":"2015-01-23T08:50:18","date_gmt":"2015-01-23T08:50:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/?p=1103"},"modified":"2015-01-22T23:50:53","modified_gmt":"2015-01-22T23:50:53","slug":"019-toby-jepson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/019-toby-jepson\/","title":{"rendered":"ICP 019 Music Producer Toby Jepson On Being Utterly Fearless"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>What a major label songwriter can teach you about how to succeed in the music business&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Listen<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"player_container player-1103\" ><div class=\"spp_player_textabove\"><b>  <\/b><\/div><div id=\"sm2-1103\" class=\"playercontent sm2-bar-ui compact flat full-width full-width-player\"><div class=\"bd sm2-main-controls\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-inline-element sm2-button-element\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sm2-button-bd\" style=\"background: 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Now<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Scroll down for detailed episode notes and quick access timings<\/em><\/p>\n<h2><strong>In this episode you&#8217;ll learn:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Why you can&#8217;t pull the wool over the eyes of your audience<\/li>\n<li>How Toby prepares professional artists for the studio<\/li>\n<li>What inspires a songwriter to write a great song<\/li>\n<li>Why success relies upon you being utterly fearless<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\ufeffIn this episode of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/\" title=\"Inspirational Creatives\" target=\"_blank\">Inspirational Creatives<\/a>, singer, songwriter and music producer, Toby Jepson, shares what he knows about success in the music industry today.<\/p>\n<p>Having had multiple hits (including 10 top forty hits in the UK during the 1990s plus album &#8220;<em>Jam<\/em>&#8221; going straight in at number 1) with British rock group, Little Angels, Toby has since established himself as a sought after producer.<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Toby-and-Rob.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Toby-and-Rob-225x300.png\" alt=\"Toby Jepson and Rob Lawrence pointing\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1114\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Toby-and-Rob-225x300.png 225w, https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Toby-and-Rob-768x1024.png 768w, https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/Toby-and-Rob.png 864w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a>\n<p>Growing up in the small English seaside resort of Scarborough, Toby shares his early experiences of music, bands and friendship as well as his record production and songwriting philosophy.<\/p>\n<p>Toby has been developing his reputation as a producer working with bands such as The Answer, Saxon and Chrome Molly. More recently, he has been writing with Katie Melua and producing The Treason Kings.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/d1QgY\" title=\"Click to Tweet\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;You gain the confidence of a band by your ability to help them discover themselves.&#8221; &#8211; Toby Jepson<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2><strong>Items mentioned in this episode (quick access):<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Growing up and early inspiration<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span>[0:00:45]<\/span> Rob introduces Toby.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:01:33]<\/span> Toby reflects on his experience in the music industry.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:01:57]<\/span> Rob asks Toby about what motivated him to create and what his environment was like growing up.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:02:05]<\/span> Toby talks about how his parents were huge music fans. Mono record players. An extensive record collection. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Inspirational heroes<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span>[0:02:55]<\/span> The impact of watching Freddie Mercury on a Top of the Pops performance.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:03:20]<\/span> Toby&#8217;s Dad.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:03:50]<\/span> Reflecting on the quality of the songs when growing up.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:04:17]<\/span> Rob asks Toby if he remembers when he first started songwriting. Toby also talks about music lessons with a guitar teacher in the village.<\/p>\n<p><strong>First experiences songwriting<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span>[0:05:00]<\/span> Why Toby got into songwriting.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:05:18]<\/span> The Eagles, Cat Stevens, Led Zeppelin and Carly Simon.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:05:44]<\/span> Toby explains where songwriting inspiration can come from.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Politics and art <\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/6rfPC\" title=\"Click to Tweet\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;John Lennon was a ferocious voice of reason for me\u2026&#8221; &#8211; Toby Jepson<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span>[0:06:04]<\/span> Toby talks about how politics and social politics are linked to art and music.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:06:37]<\/span> How the Beatles influenced him.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:06:55]<\/span> John Lennon: working class hero. Social injustice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Breaking out of a tiny seaside town<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/kcWqa\" title=\"Click to Tweet\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;You don&#8217;t have to come from a big city to be a great rock band.&#8221; &#8211; Toby Jepson<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span>[0:07:23]<\/span> Toby talks about how he wanted to break out of a small town. Writing songs like &#8220;<em>Big Bad World.<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:08:30]<\/span> How songwriters can come unstuck. The importance of incorporating your knowledge of the subject matter into songwriting.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:08:50]<\/span> David Bowie.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Connecting with the audience<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span>[0:10:05]<\/span> Toby talks about the Little Angels song &#8220;<em>Radical your lover<\/em>.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p><span>[0:10:19]<\/span> Toby talks about the motivation behind the song &#8220;<em>Do You Want To Riot.<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:10:38]<\/span> Rob asks Toby how Little Angels came together. <\/p>\n<p><span>[0:11:30]<\/span> Toby talks about his first shows. Opening for acts of the time.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:12:13]<\/span> The moment Little Angels first stepped on a stage together.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It&#8217;s all about the song<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/dN0QU\" title=\"Click to Tweet\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;To be relevant you have to talk about the things that you know&#8230; you can&#8217;t pull the wool over peoples eyes.&#8221; &#8211; Toby Jepson<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span>[0:13:00]<\/span> Rob asks Toby about his audio production approach.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:14:15]<\/span> Why Toby insists on a large number of rehearsals. The band, The Answer. <\/p>\n<p><span>[0:14:40]<\/span> Operating a computer and being in a band is not the same thing.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:15:52]<\/span> Why Toby chooses studios very carefully and why he records live. The band, The Virginmarys.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/1b0qC\" title=\"Click to Tweet\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;There&#8217;s an awful lot of people that call themselves producers but they are computer operators\u2026it has to be about the music.&#8221; &#8211; Toby Jepson<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span>[0:16:25]<\/span> Why Toby refuses to repair recordings.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:16:40]<\/span> The 1970s. Led Zeppelin, Rainbow, Deep Purple and Whitesnake.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Trust and managing expectations<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span>[0:17:30]<\/span> Toby talks about the studio environment. Mixing.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1112\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ctt.ec\/Q6pf0\" title=\"Click to Tweet\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1112\" src=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/ICP-019-Toby-utterly-fearless-300x300.png\" alt=\"Toby Jepson quote You Have To Be Utterly Fearless\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1112\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/ICP-019-Toby-utterly-fearless-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/ICP-019-Toby-utterly-fearless-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/ICP-019-Toby-utterly-fearless.png 320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1112\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Click image to Tweet)<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span>[0:18:03]<\/span> Rob asks Toby how he maintains a relationship with the artists whilst pushing their performance. <\/p>\n<p><span>[0:19:00]<\/span> How having someone on the outside gives artists a license to explore themselves further than they would normally be willing to. <\/p>\n<p><span>[0:20:00]<\/span> Trying to break the barriers down with artists.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:21:37]<\/span> Rob asks Toby how he thinks the role of the producer has evolved during his lifetime.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:22:16]<\/span> What music production is and isn&#8217;t about.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:24:05]<\/span> Toby talks about the music producers he respects.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:27:00]<\/span> Toby mentions there&#8217;s lots of romance and rose-tinted appeal about rock music.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:27:50]<\/span> Sticking to the plan. Toby mentions the band, Royal Blood.<\/p>\n<p><span>[0:28:44]<\/span> Toby has seen every side of the music business.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/inspirationalcreatives\/ICP019-toby-jepson.mp3\">Right Click Here To Download This Episode Now<\/a><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Links:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tobyjepson.com\/www\/\" title=\"Toby Jepson website\" target=\"_blank\">Toby Jepson (website)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/TobyJepson\" title=\"@tobyjepson\" target=\"_blank\">Toby Jepson (twitter)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.littleangelsofficial.com\/site\/\" title=\"Little Angels (website)\" target=\"_blank\">Little Angels (official website)<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>People mentioned in this episode:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/mikefrasermix.com\/\" title=\"Mike Fraser\" target=\"_blank\">Mike Frazer<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lippmanent.com\/james-jimbo-barton\/\" title=\"James Barton (Lippmanent)\" target=\"_blank\">James &#8220;Jimbo&#8221; Barton<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>If you enjoyed this podcast, you&#8217;ll also like:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/000-what-is-inspirational-creatives\/\" title=\"ICP 000 What is Inspirational Creatives?\">What is Inspirational Creatives?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/001-greg-hartle\/\" title=\"Greg Hartle on Solving Problems with Curiosity, Resilience and Grit\" target=\"_blank\">Greg Hartle on Solving Problems with Curiosity, Resilience and Grit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/podcast\/011-michael-gebben\/\" title=\"ICP 011 Anything is Possible with Michael Gebben\">Anything is Possible with Michael Gebben<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>Thanks for listening<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>If you enjoyed this episode, please share your honest review with others on iTunes by clicking <a href=\"http:\/\/www.inspirationalcreatives.com\/itunes\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> and rating the show. 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